Menstrual Cups

Cute Chinese Cup spotted on Alibaba

Every now and then I look through Alibaba listings to see what new cup designs are being sold (in bulk) in China.  Usually it’s the standard cups you see being rebranded.  But this one caught my eye as something very unique I’ve not seen yet.

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Before anyone asks where/how to buy one – Alibaba is a trade site dealing in wholesale (For example these have a 500 minimum order), so until someone buys them and offers them retail, they won’t be available to purchase.  Interestingly the listing makes no mention of medical grade silicone and just calls it “silicone’.

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A couple of other interesting cup designs on Alibaba… these (from the same manufacturer as the above ones), with a wavy line around the bottom of the “ridge” part of the cup  – look to be a mid-length hollow tube stem.  Link

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These valve stem cups with smooth sides (no ridge or thickening of the rim)  Link

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and these Short bodied cups.  Small size has a body 33mm long, large is 37mm long. Link

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March 19, 2018 Posted by | news | Leave a comment

US MeLuna Cups Vs MeLuna cups sold elsewhere

MeLuna published an interesting article on their site – http://meluna-usa.com/index.php/blog/14-us-version-cups-vs-rest-of-the-world-cups

“In Europe menstrual cups are considered a hygiene article and therefore do not have to meet medical device standards. In the US however the cups are considered a medical device. This is in large part because they are inserted into the body and have prolonged contact with mucus membranes. MeLuna cups sold in the US have to meet FDA standards which include being made from all medical grade materials.”

“The TPE that is used in the US cups even in the clear version is slightly different to meet FDA standards of ‘medical grade’.
The even more noticable difference though is in the colorants. Colorants for the non-US MeLuna version are food colorants and not medical grade. US colorants are medical grade.

We offer different colorants here in the US because the US version is made from medical grade colorants made specifically to fuse permanently and without leaching with the raw material.”

While I assume this article is intended to make the US versions sound safer and better, to me it does raise an interesting point about the safety of the non US versions then….  If they acknowledge that the medical grade colourants don’t leach…. doesn’t that then mean that the food-grade colourants used in the non-US cups might?

Someone posted a comment about the glitter from their cup coming loose as well.

February 1, 2018 Posted by | news | , , | 2 Comments

Why (I believe) you shouldn’t buy “Chinese Cheapies”

Everyone wants a bargain, not everyone has cash to spare  – I’m quite budget conscious myself.  I get it.  But sometimes paying a bit extra is worth it.

There are a LOT of places selling really cheap cups.  As in under $2 “cheap”.  Other brands can cost $40 or more.  For that kind of price, who wouldn’t want to spend just $2 compared to paying 20x that price!

But cheap isn’t always best.  There are a few things to consider –

1) Is the cup design a good one for you?

2) Is the material safe?

3) Do you want to support a good brand or support a dodgy one?

The thing is, a menstrual cup is really an investment.  A menstrual cup should last around 10 years.  So you’re talking about the more expensive menstrual cups costing about $4 PER YEAR or less, tampons would cost you more than that per month.  Even the most expensive cup is a MASSIVE saving on using tampons. I don’t know about you, but I consider my vagina is worth more than $4 a year to keep happy and healthy. I don’t want to be shoving anything up there for long periods of time unless I’m fairly confident that there will be no long-term side effects of that.  Cervical cancer is something I’d like to avoid and IMHO putting something of unknown and potentially dodgy composition up close to your cervix for 12 hours a day may not be a sensible idea.

At the end of the day, buy what you want – but I want to make sure people are aware of what they are buying and thinking about factors other than the price.  If you’re buying to donate to impoverished women, or buying for a friend – consider their vaginal health too.

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July 14, 2017 Posted by | Cup Related, news | 4 Comments

Yuuki Rainbow

Yuuki have brought out “Rainbow” cups – these cups are made with 7 colours of silicone to create a rainbow effect.  Each cup will have a slightly different pattern of these rainbow stripes, making each one unique.

https://www.yuukicup.com/en/eshop/rainbow-line-menstrual-cup-detail-583

July 7, 2017 Posted by | news | , | Leave a comment

Changes to the Cup listings

It is becoming very difficult and time consuming to list each brand separately on this site, as many of the new ones coming onto the market appear to be the same cup design given a different name (“Rebranding“). This also makes things very confusing in both how I’m going to list them on the site (lots of duplicating info) and for you to find information about the cups.

So from now on I will focus just on just individually listing the “unique” cups (designs not similar to any other existing cups) in separate posts, and all the suspected rebrandings and cups that look the same as other cups already listed, won’t receive individual pages.  These will still be linked in the cup list on the side menu.

There is also now a master list – with all cup brands listed by uniqueness and stem type

~Click here for the MASTER CUP BRAND LIST ~

 

Cups I know about but haven’t listed here on the site yet:

July 6, 2017 Posted by | news | 3 Comments

Winny Cup

While I said I wasn’t going to individually list rebranded cups any more, I will when one is particularly newsworthy….. and that’s Winny Cup.

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While the cup itself is nothing unusual – it appears to be yet another rebranding of the short stemmed cups with lines around the top (eg. Blossom Cup, Dutchess Cup, Charlene, Athena, Lola etc. etc. etc.) – There are some points on their website that are worth mentioning (because, you know… I like being a bit snarky sometimes…. maybe it’s because I’ve got my period [I don’t, but according to the articles on the site I’m totally justified to be crazy and angry if I’m on my period, so hey, why not use it as an excuse!]).

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November 29, 2016 Posted by | news, The Cups | | 1 Comment

New Purple LENA

LENA now comes in 3 colours!  The original pink, as well as turquoise and now purple!

It’s no secret that purple is my favourite colour, so since I also love the shape of the LENA cup, there now being purple ones makes me very happy!  The turquoise is really lovely too.

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My camera doesn’t really show the purple it as it appears in real-life, and it’s been horrible and overcast for days, so the lighting isn’t great – so in the photos it does look a bit more blue than purple, but it is a very lovely lavender colour.

The official photos show it accurately

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While the colours are pastel shades, they have a very vibrant look – with a lot of colour.  They are translucent not opaque, with a lot more depth of colour than some of the other translucent coloured cups.

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As with the original, the boxes are 100% recycled and are printed with vegetable-based inks!

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October 18, 2016 Posted by | news, The Cups | | Leave a comment

Survey from “PATH”

I was contacted by a representative from PATH, a health organisation who is doing research into menstrual products in developing countries.  They asked me to share surveys they are doing, so that menstrual cup users can give feedback on their cup use, that may be helpful.

Hi,

My name is Celina and I’m a big fan of this forum and the supportive online community you’ve fostered. I work for PATH, a global health nonprofit based in Seattle, Washington that is committed to improving the health and wellbeing of women and children around the world.

Research suggests that without access to affordable, reliable menstrual care products, girls and women in developing countries may resort to using unhygienic alternatives like feathers, soil, strips of mattress, or old rags to absorb menstrual blood. We feel strongly that increasing menstrual hygiene options for girls and women has implications for their health, education and gender equity. PATH is interested in improving upon existing models of menstrual cups, to design an affordable product that would be appropriate for girls and women in developing countries. We’ve created three short surveys to better understand users preferences and experiences with different menstrual cups and would greatly appreciate your feedback. 

  • If you currently, or have ever used a reusable menstrual cup, you can take our 10 minute survey HERE.
  • If you currently, or have ever use a disposable menstrual cup (Instead Softcup), we’d love your feedback HERE.
  • If you currently, or have ever used a diaphragm off label as a menstrual cup, we’d love to hear from you HERE.

The more feedback we receive, the better we will understand women’s needs and preferences. Thank you for your support, and please let me know if you have any questions!

Celina”

March 16, 2016 Posted by | news, Polls | 1 Comment

Genti-She Comment

Genti-She left a comment on my Genti-she listing (3rd March 2016), to say that the http://genti-she.weebly.com site (the only website I could find for them) had been hacked and was now a hoax site:

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March 7, 2016 Posted by | news | Leave a comment

DIY Menstrual Cup Project

http://www.orangenarwhals.com/2015/11/diy-menstrual-cups-hack4fem

This seems to have been made as more of a project to see if it was possible, rather than with the intention to actually make a usable cup, but this website has an interesting article on the process of making a DIY cup!

It is worth mentioning that silicone intended for prolonged skin contact (especially used internally), should be tested for bio-compatibility to make sure it is safe, and that just because something is food-safe doesn’t mean it is safe for internal use….. so I REALLY STRONGLY recommend you DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME (not for actual use purposes anyway).  But the concept is interesting indeed!

March 3, 2016 Posted by | news | Leave a comment

Stopper Stem Cup

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Found on Alibaba (a site that sells wholesale, so I don’t know if they are available anywhere at retail prices/amounts) – this is a cup (with the same lines around the top as the Blossom/Dutchess etc. cups have) with a hollow tube stem that has an attached stopper on the end.  This would allow you to empty the cup while wearing it.

Sizes are listed as being Small: 35mm diameter, 7omm long, Large 40mm diameter, 80mm long

March 3, 2016 Posted by | news, The Cups | , | 2 Comments

Cup Quiz and Insertion Video

I found this interesting cup quiz!  It asks a few questions and suggests a cup that might be suitable for you. (I got Lena when I did it).

http://putacupinit.com/quiz

 

That site also has a great video of inserting a menstrual cup, using an anatomical model.

http://putacupinit.com/an-inside-look-at-menstrual-cups

February 19, 2016 Posted by | Cup Related, news, Using a cup | 2 Comments

How Are Menstrual Cups Made?

I’ll start by saying I don’t know for sure…. this is really just me thinking out loud 🙂  but lately I’ve seen a few photos of menstrual cup molds, so I think I understand the basic idea of how they are made… so because I found that interesting, I thought I’d share that with you too.  If anyone knows more about this than I do – please feel free to comment and let us know!!

I’m sure we’ve all noticed that some cups have seams on the sides, and some cups don’t.  One cup company told me that they were using a different type of mold so that they didn’t get a seam. There have also been a couple of cups produced in a “half and half” colours.  Early on, She Cup brought out a pink/purple cup (photos here) and lately there was a pink/black cup spotted on Alibaba

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So this precise division of colour for the pink/black cup, and the fact a lot of cups have side seams seems to suggest that some cups are made in 2 halves.  In this case, 1 half has black silicone and the other half uses pink.  The SheCups were made from similar colours so the difference isn’t as striking and there seemed to have a little more blending in the 2 colours and the line where the 2 colours meet is also not vertical.  So these may not have been made in the same way.

A couple of AliExpress lisings have shown cup molds, and the Fleurity video shows another type of cup mold.  Basically it seems that the cup molds have 2 parts – something that forms the shape of the outside of the cup and something that fills up the space that will be the hollow inside of the cup – and the silicone is inserted between the parts to form the cup.

 

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Looking at this mold above (from here), it appears that this would make the cups that are made in 2 halves and probably have a side seam.  I presume that the bottom 2 pieces (that form the shape of the outside of the cup) are fitted together, and the top piece (that forms the inside of the cup) inserted between those 2 halves.  There does appear to be small channels around the mold, and this may be where the liquid silicone is injected into the mold.

If you look at this picture of cups that still have leftover silicone from the molding process (found here), you can see there are some darker/thicker lines, which may have been from channels like I theorised, where the silicone was injected into the mold.  These obviously get removed from the cup before they are sold to customers, so it is interesting to see a photo of this stage of the process!.

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This mold is shown in the Fleurity video.  Again it shows the cups would be made in halves and likely have a side seam.  It would seem from looking at the mold, that the part we can see on the right that has the metal pins poking out of it, would fit over the part on the left, so that those pins fit into the holes we can see on the part on the left.  This would ensure the mold fits together properly.  When the 2 parts are sandwiched together, those shiny cup shaped pieces would form the hollow inside of the cup.  As there appears to be no channels for the silicone to be injected into this mold, so I do not know how it would be filled, unless it is done via that centre part with the handles…

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This mold (found here) makes cups that would not have a side seam.  The pieces on the right appear to be the mold for the entire outside of the cups as one piece and the pieces on the left would flip over and fit into those bottom sections to form the inside of the cups.  You can again see the pins on the corners of the mold to make sure the 2 parts are correctly fitting.  There are again lines on the mold that may be channels for injecting the liquid silicone into.

January 14, 2016 Posted by | news | 2 Comments

Black/Pink Cups

On Alibaba … which seems to be basically a showcase site rather than an online store – so perhaps not available to purchase…

But half and half pink/black cups!

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http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/FDA-Approved-medical-grade-reusable-Soft_60371099212.html

 

Although no cups are FDA approved, and “organic?  I think not 😛

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January 13, 2016 Posted by | news | Leave a comment

Cup News

Searching through AliExpress I found a couple of interesting things…

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Gyncup, for wholesale at $5.52 each (here)….. making me further suspect these are cheaply made Chinese cups (Aneer/iCare?) with new branding

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A cup that looks like a copy of the old style Yuuki (here and here) Available in colours.  Looks like the Girlies Cup.

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A new look Bassrose box (here), but not the valve-stem Bassrose cup, it shows a Blossom/Dutchess etc. cup instead.

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A few new cup brands/rebrands (who I have no details for) – See the Cups with No Details and Nameless Cups pages

lola leasen cleocup

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As well as some new cups I do have details for

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Aphrodite | Beianyi | Honeymoon | Nabelle

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Eve Cup (Femfulness) used to be selling the flat tab stem cups (Like Lunette), but is now selling the wide flat tab ones

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November 26, 2015 Posted by | news | , , , | Leave a comment

iCare Box similarities

There is a company on AliExpress (http://rockbrook.en.alibaba.com) who seem to make the iCare menstrual cup.  There are a couple of cup brands whose boxes are very similar in design, and whose cups are the same style.  The reason I want to bring this to your attention is because if the other brands of cup are actually the same as the iCare, but named something else.  You should be aware that some of the rebranded cups are selling for a lot more than the iCare cup.  Also it’s interesting news 🙂

 

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The Luno Box has the same cup-flower design on the box (although due to the difference in the pouch, it’s unclear if Luno have bought iCare cups, or if iCare have copied the Luno)

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The Improving Birth cup appears to have the same flower designs on the side of the box and paragraph spacing for the writing, and even the same wrinkles on the pouch (eg they photoshopped logo on)

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Also……  there are other Aliexpress stores, like “Easy Joy Time” (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1166401) and “Care for Women” (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1920862), who don’t seem to be Rockbrook, but are selling the same design cups as the “Anytime” or “iCare”, but calling it the “care” cup, using the same font as iCare, and what appears to be the same writing on the side of the box, and even the same box design – just with the i  removed.  I suspect these businesses are buying the iCare/Anytime cups and rebranding them as “Care” and “Femcup”?

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Or the same “Anytime” cup with a box that is the same as the Greek Femecup

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They also sell that Femcup box/pouch with an iCare style cup too (could Femcup be an iCare rebrand?)

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November 25, 2015 Posted by | news | , , , , | Leave a comment

Shenzhen Zhida Xintai Technology Co.

There is a company on AliExpress (http://zdkjsy.en.alibaba.com) who sell a lot of different designs of menstrual cup.  These same designs are some of the ones we see commonly thought to be “rebrandings” (where someone buys a cup and sells it under a different name).  The reason I want to bring this to your attention is because this company are selling the cups for as little as 50c per cup…. whereas cups that appear to be identical and renamed to something else, are being sold for up to $30 each.   So if you are going to buy one of these cups, it would be a lot cheaper to buy from what appears to be the manufacturer.

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The cups they seem to manufacture are these:

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Short stemmed cup with a series of small grip lines just under the rim

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Sold for as little as 50c each, cups with these same design features are being sold under the brand names: “Aneer”, Athena, Blossom Cup, Easy Cups, Charlene, Cup’ax, Dutchess Cup, Femma’s Cup, PlaytamxSure Cycle, Vida Cup.

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Long tab stemmed cup

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Sold for as little as 45c each. There are quite a few brands selling cups with this stem type and same general look, although it is difficult to know which brands may be selling these cups, as the iCare cup (made by Rockbrook) is also very similar in design (really just slight differences in measurements).  Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of different measurements given for cups like this that look to be the same cup – so it’s difficult to tell which are the same.  See my Similar/Rebranded page for a list of cups with this design and their measurements (if known).

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Other Cups

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They also sell the “Bassrose” valve stem cup, and a cup I haven’t seen around much, (which I’m calling the “Embossed heart cup” for the time being), and never given a brand name, which seems to have a thicker solid rounded stem, with a heart shape design on the side of the cup.

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Some of the listings for this company are for bulk (100 cups minimum order), specifically talking about selling them on Amazon and they state that they can provide the boxes for you.  Some pictures also definitely show the Smart Cup packaging and what appears to be the Dutchess Cup packaging (picture below shows a screenshot of the listing that shows bulk packaging with the Smart cup and Dutchess Cup boxes added to show they look to be the same boxes).

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One concern is that the listings for the cups say they are medical grade or food grade, and imply they are FDA approved.  I don’t know if the mention of food-grade silicone is because they use the same materials list for all their silicone products and don’t change it to medical grade for the cup listings (their cup listings claim it’s medical grade in the text).  Or if people can choose to have their bulk lot of cups made in a cheaper foodgrade silicone?

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I would also like to point out that the FDA told me there is no such thing as FDA approved silicone….. and that it is an offense to make misleading statements that would imply your menstrual cups have FDA approval when they don’t (as putting an FDA logo onto pictures of the cups would do, and showing certificates that imply they are giving FDA approval).  So I’m not sure about how accurate a statement on FDA approval on silicone is (See my article on the FDA here)

The company details say: “Certificates: FDA/CE/SGS certified company”  – which may mean the *company* has certification with the FDA, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the menstrual cups or silicone they use is certified/registered/approved by the FDA.  Only cups that are registered with the FDA are supposed to be sold in or to the US, and as of writing this article, none of the brands listed on this page, nor a company with this name appear in the FDA database for registered businesses or products.

This could explain why a lot of the cups that appear to be rebrandings of this cup, claim to be FDA approved or made from FDA approved silicone.  They may be misinterpreting what the FDA certificates actually mean?

 

November 25, 2015 Posted by | news, The Cups | , , , , , , , | Leave a comment

Few pieces of news

  • Amy Cup (who previously offered a different shaped cup with applicator tube – now has a “Crystal” cup that is the same sort of design as the more standard menstrual cups.  Appears to be available only in blue.  Details on the Amy Cup listing.

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  • The La Luna cup has been renamed to Mahina

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  • Female Cup” has been spotted on “deal of the day” type sites in Australia and Switzerland, the latter site shows a picture of a different cup than the one normally shown as Female Cup.  So it is unclear if they have changed designs or not.

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Also spotted on Aliexpress

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November 6, 2015 Posted by | news | , , , , , | Leave a comment

Loon Cup

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Looncup is currently under a kickstarter campaign to raise funds to start production of this cup.  It is a cup with the ability to track your menstrual fluid volume and colour, to track your cycles – connecting with your smartphone to give you updates.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/700989404/looncup-the-worlds-first-smart-menstrual-cup

October 19, 2015 Posted by | news, The Cups | 3 Comments

Folding Cups

There’s a couple of cups that are obviously influenced by the Lily Compact folding design (Lily was the first cup to feature a foldable/collapsing design). And as usual, there are now some branded cups that appear to be rebrandings of these AliExpress cups:

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Found on AliExpress | Found on Alibaba

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Vijay Cup |Feminesse

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Ella Cup

September 15, 2015 Posted by | news, The Cups | , , , , | 1 Comment

Crowdfunded “Moon Cup”

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http://www.mooncup.com.tw

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Appears to be the same sort of design as the Femmycycle, but with a flower-like design around the edge.

Currently (as of Sept 2015) asking for crowdfunding donations to raise money to go into production.

The colour picture shows no seam where the flip-out section would attach to (if the design is the same as Femmycycle, which seems to be if you look at the black&white pictures).  So the images are probably all conceptual art and not the actual cup.

I can’t seem to get google to translate the entire site, but here are some sections:

“If I can find enough moon cup supporters willing countersigned + development plan sponsor, then I can put in front of the development and production processes. After the fund-raising, please give me six months, through the license application. 2016 summer, u can start with the moon Cup! ʱ??”

 

“Content moon Cup project, is to “produce on the ground” and develop “the most suitable for Asian women to use the Moon Cup”, unwilling to come to break the long-standing American and European brands in Taiwan tradition, as well as cross-Taiwan can only find on behalf of the girls to buy dilemma. I want everyone everywhere in Taiwan have had to buy, there is starting.”

 

“It will improve the shortcomings of European and American brands, and then adjusted to the most suitable for Asian girls body type size.”

September 4, 2015 Posted by | news, The Cups | | 1 Comment

Mooncup, Moon Cup, MCUK?

Occasionally this confusion pops up, so I thought that since the original site I’d linked to that explains all this has gone, I’d address this here.

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Long story short….. there are 2 menstrual cups going by the name of “Mooncup”/”Moon cup”, and the “Mooncup” is the same as the “MCUK” but not the same as “Moon cup”.  Clear as mud?  🙂

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The original “Mooncup” product, which often now gets referred to as the “Mooncup UK”, was brought out in 2000 and is manufactured in the UK by The Mooncup Ltd. – www.mooncup.co.uk

In 2006, The Keeper Inc. (makers of the “Keeper” rubber cup) in the US brought out a silicone version of their cup, also calling it a “Moon Cup” (their trademark is registered with a space, although people often leave the space out), which gets called a “Moon cup US” by some people, to help distinguish it from the UK one – www.keeper.com.

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Since both companies have the trademark for the name in their respective countries (more on that below), when the Keeper inc. started selling their “Moon Cup”, the original UK “Mooncup” was not able to be sold to the US due to the trademark issue (and presumably vice versa).  So in 2011 Mooncup UK started calling their cups destined for the US market the “MCUK” – which allowed them to be sold there, making a separate section of their website to allow US customers to buy their cups under this new name – http://www.mooncup.co.uk/how-to-order/mcuk-online-shop.html.

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Why did Keeper Inc. bring out a cup and name it the same thing as another brand already out there?  Well…. some people feel they did it to try and take some of the Mooncup UK market, and there has been a lot of ill will towards the Keeper as a result.  For example, early on, the Keeper website appeared to use meta tags that used the term “mooncup” before they were selling cups under that name – which meant that searching for a Mooncup would also bring up the Keeper website.

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The timeline goes like this:

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2000
August – The domain name http://www.mooncup.co.uk was registered to Mooncup UK.  I’m not sure when the cups were available for sale, but I would assume sometime not long after.
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2002
January – The Keeper inc. registered the domain http://www.themooncup.com February 25th – The Keeper inc. submitted an application to trademark the name “MOON CUP” in the US.

October – The Keeper inc. registered the domain http://www.mooncup.com Nov 12th – Mooncup (UK) submitted an application to trademark the name “MOONCUP” in the UK.
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2003
The domain registration was contested – info on that here – but the findings were basically that there was no proof the domains were being used in bad faith, and that registering a domain name does not by default grant you sole use of the name. The hearing commented that if anyone held a legal right to the name, it would be the Keeper given that they applied for the trademark first.
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2006
On August 1st the Silicone Keeper/”Moon Cup” was first discovered for sale by people in the cup community.  Though it took a while before The Keeper Inc. actually acknowledged it was their cup, so it caused a lot of confusion with people not knowing what was going on, and buying the US Moon Cup thinking it was a UK Mooncup.
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2009
Mooncup UK submitted a trademark application for “MCUK

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So as the timeline shows, Mooncup UK was without a doubt the first to actually publicly use the name, and to sell a product with that name. However, The Keeper Inc. were first in submitting their trademark application. I don’t know how trademark law works in regard to how you determine which trademark is considered to be “first” – whether it goes by the application date, or the date it is granted (I would assume the latter).

The Mooncup UK trademark appears to have been granted on 05 March 2004, and the Keeper Inc. trademark underwent a lot of extensions and seems to have been registered on the 31st Jan 2006.  Which (if I am reading that correctly) means that Mooncup UK actually got their trademark approved first. Although that’s just semantics, and it actually makes no difference who got the name first (from a legal standpoint, ethically I think it does).

Since a trademark only protects the name in the country you register it in (generally your home country, unless you also register it in other countries), which is why it is possible for a name to be trademarked in different countries to different people – giving a situation like this where there are 2 products both with the same trademarked name.

Either way, it created a confusing situation – with a lot of people not understanding that there are 2 different cups from 2 different companies, but that one of the cups had 2 different names, depending on where you live. All of that would have been solved if the Keeper Inc. had just called their silicone cup a “Keeper Clear” or something, rather than calling it a Moon Cup.

May 19, 2015 Posted by | news | , | 2 Comments

LUB’s lifespan/health advice

I saw this a while back and wanted to comment on it.  If you have a look on the Luv-Ur-Body website, they have some FAQ statements concerning the lifespan of the cup and hygiene that I would like to address.  I feel it’s a shame when menstruation and women’s bodies are portrayed as being gross and dirty, especially if it is being done to convince people to replace a menstrual cup more often that they should need to (eg commercial gain for the company)

http://luvur-body.com/wp/faq-busted-myths

“We strongly recommend the use of our Menstrual Cups for just 3 yrs based on hygiene reasons. We do not think it’s hygienic to re-use for 10yrs something vaginally inserted (which mixes with cervical secretion and other bodily fluids/waste) which costs the same as a haircut. Especially if you are sexually active or have multiple partners. Most people would not use a toothbrush for 10yrs”

You don’t reuse a toothbrush for 10 years because as they become “shaggy” with frequent use they become less effective at doing their job, and need to be replaced.  Their lifespan is supposed to be about 3 months for optimal efficiency.  While yes, they also become less hygienic with use (they actually have far more nooks and crannies for bacteria to hide in than a menstrual cup, and you don’t even  clean/boil/steralise them as you do for cups) but that’s not the only reason you would replace them. So it’s not a very good comparison.

The amount of sex you have, and how many partners you do it with, also should not affect how hygienic it is to use your menstrual cup.

“and most women would not re-use a douch applicator spout, clothpad, menstrual sponge or particular pair of panty for 10yrs!”

Again, underpants, sponges and cloth pads all usually wear out before 10 years, so people replace them because of wear, not because they have become unhygienic with use.

“We completely understand that the vagina is self cleaning and that women generally bath at least once a day and will maintain high levels of personal hygiene but hey lets face it, some peoples level of personal hygiene will be poorer than others. That’s why some women get vaginal infections or STD’s and some don’t.”

Sexually transmitted diseases are caused by things like viruses, certain bacteria and parasites.  You do not get an STD because you bathe less frequently or from using a menstrual cup that has become “unhygienic” with age.

“Same way some people have bad breath and some don’t. Thus some will clean their Cups better than others over time and some won’t especially the airholes that tend to get clogged with blood clots. Some women don’t use the pouches to store but rather leave their Cup out on the bathroom sink where it comes in contact with dust mites, germs and bathroom cleaning products.”

And for all those cups collecting dust and germs, they can be boiled or soaked in steralising solution.

“It’s not uncommon for menstrual cups to be re-usable for 3yrs or less, “

Actually it is.

If the LUB cups are only durable enough for 3 years of use, then that’s the companies choice to make their product in that way.  However arguing that they shouldn’t be used for longer because it would be unhygienic is misleading or false, as is trying to imply that a short lifespan like that is normal among other menstrual cup brands.

“some brands made in the UK are re-usable for about 18months only and some are disposable after each use.”

Most of the cups that do talk about a lifespan, say around 10 years. That is the common lifespan for a reusable menstrual cup.

DivaCup suggests replacing the cup every 12 months, but does say it is up to the user to decide how long to keep it for  – which some people assume is to sell more cups, although some people have reported their DivaCups as being less durable as other brands.  Femmecup offers a”lite” version that is designed to be replaced after 12 months, but that is specifically designed to be a cheaper version of their regular cup.  That appears to be the only UK cup to have such a low lifespan.

I have seen a cup company (it might have been Diva?) say that they were unable to give a longer lifespan due to FDA regulations.

The only menstrual cup that is disposable after a single use is the Insteads Softcup (and even that is commonly reused by people) – which is not the same type of menstrual cup as the LUB (The Insteads are designed to be a cheap disposable cup option), so is not a valid comparison.

Cups that are frequently boiled or soaked in sanitizing solutions may wear out quicker than cups that are not subjected to these – and you should always check your cups for wear.  However many people feel that cup companies who promote short lifespans on their reusable cups, are doing so with the intention of boosting profits rather than because the cups will only last that long.

As far as cup hygiene goes – obviously you should make sure you cups are cleaned well (including airholes), don’t share cups with other people, practice safe sex and good personal hygiene.

However if you are making sure the cup is cleaned well after each use and before you use it again (and the cup has not deteriorated or been damaged), then there should be no difference in how hygienic is is after 1 year, 3 years, 5 years or 10 years.

May 5, 2015 Posted by | news | | Leave a comment

Menstrual Cup Stores Worldwide Map

Want to find an actual physical (“Bricks and mortar”) store that sell menstrual cups, anywhere around the world?  Well now you can!

http://menstrualcupmap.com

menstrualcupmap

The map shows stockist information from the official cup brand websites, with identifying logos for each brand to help you see which cups are available where.

April 23, 2015 Posted by | Cup Related, news | 5 Comments

Food-grade Vs Medical-grade silicone

One of the theories I had about the cheap Chinese cups, was that they could be made using cheaper silicone, perhaps food-grade, rather than medical-grade.

While most of the listings for the cups state they are medical grade, there are a few that say they are made from food-grade silicone.  Which is a concern.  If some of them are, then it is possible that others are.  You are really only relying on what a product listing says to know what it is made from.

It could also explain why most of the cheap cups are also very soft/squishy.  It could be because there are more softeners added, but it could be because they are made from different silicone.

For example, Blossom Cup’s website claims the cup is FDA approved (which is false), and that it is made from FDA approved medical grade silicone.fda_blossom

Yet their Amazon listing says the cup is made from Food-Grade silicone:

blossom-food2

If it is made from food-grade silicone, then not only is their website fraudulent, but if the other similar cups (Charlene, Dutchess etc.) are in fact the same cups too (just rebranded), then those would all be food-grade not medical grade too… and those claim they are medical grade.

Another example is the cups being sold by Zhida Xintai, those list food grade silicone as their material.

aneer_foodgrade

What is the difference?

I really can’t say if food-grade silicone is going to be worse for a cup to be made from than medical grade.  However something that is safe for contact with food, may not necessarily be safe for skin-contact inside your vagina for days.

Medical grade silicone is designed for products that are used inside the body, and it is therefore tested on animals.  Now, while we might not like that fact, it is done to make sure that the material is safe to have in the body.  Food-grade silicone does not undergo those tests, as it is designed to have contact with food only.  Not for being used on or in the body.

So while food-grade silicone may be perfectly fine to use, there is no guarantee it won’t cause reactions, because it has not been tested for that use.

March 24, 2015 Posted by | news | | 3 Comments

Message from Anigan about Eva Cup

Anigan (EvaCup) posted a couple of comments to different posts here, which I didn’t publish to the blog because some of them weren’t in relevant areas, but I’ll repost what they said here (which makes it more visible to everyone anyway).

I invite Anigan to make more comments to this post if they wish.

“First of all thank you for your interests in reviewing EvaCup. We would like to take this opportunity to make it clear to everyone that EVACUP IS NOT A KNOCK OFF. We designed, developed and patented EvaCup in the US and we’re manufacturing EvaCup in the US as well.

We are a company that specialize in menstrual products and try our best to make HIGH QUALITY PRODUCTS with AFFORDABLE PRICES for women of all classes. Our quality isn’t any less than more expensive brands. EvaCup is made in a FDA registered facility as well.
We do have issues with China copying our cups and have been taking legal actions against them. They stole our design and sold the cups on Alibaba. We hired a China lawyer and international lawyer to fight them. After receiving warning letters from our lawyers, China manufactures slightly changed the cup design and continue to sell on Alibaba. We are still fighting against them but the Chinese government is not taking copyright and infringement as serious as western countries, so it’s a long journey for us.

We encourage you not to buy China made cups as their safety and quality are in question (Through our further investigations we discovered that they falsely claimed their materials. They are in fact not using medical grade silicone).

The following cups that have design like EvaCup you see on market are all the same China made cups with private labels.

– Dutchess
– Blossom Cup
– Femma Cup
– Charlene Cup

Check out our website and Facebook for more info about EvaCup. We launched EvaCup in August 2014.

Website: http://www.anigan.com
FB: facebook.com/stainfreeperiodundie
Instagram: aniganstainfree”

 

And also:

“It has come to our attention that even after we hired several lawyers including a patent lawyer for international, and specifically for China and the USA, we are still being targeted for design and rebranding.
While we find it very flattering, we began our company to offer a SAFE, well made product that was both environmentally friendly and affordable. We spend and continue to spend a great amount of time and money for testing to give you a product that uses certified and safe materials in an FDA registered facility. The materials “they” use may NOT be safe for use inside your body, as well is their colors and pigments.
We don’t want to name names, but we have had our lawyers contact counterfeit sellers and hope that they comply with NZ government. You may still find them listed on selling platforms however, “Currently Unavailable” will be shown when trying to purchase them. It’s a long process to fight infringement as some governments don’t take it as serious as western countries. Some counterfeit sellers slip through the cracks or haven’t complied yet.
As we continue to fight off the infringements, please bear with us and look for our trademark to be sure you are purchasing a product that has been tested safe.
***We are currently pending our US patent and have recently added our EvaCup logo to our mold so that YOU know you’re getting a product that you can trust!***

 

I’d like to point out that I’ve never accused EvaCup as being a copy/rebranding, I have simply listed here all the brands of cup have the same design (which is an “Aneer” and a no longer available “Cerene” brand), in the interests of sharing information.

There are a few questions I’d like to bring up though….

 

Firstly with the safety of cheap Chinese cups – this is something that quite a few people are interested in, so we would love to have any insight Anigan can give about why some of these cups may be very cheap, and what leads them to believe they aren’t medical grade silicone.  What have you seen that makes you believe they aren’t medical grade silicone?

On the cup design and other “copies”…..  EvaCup looks like this:

eva-boxed

Which has a distinctive grid-like pattern of lines around the base of the cup, with a short thick stem with grip lines and smooth “ridge” area near the rim of the cup – and the same design has been seen being sold on places like AliExpress with the name “Aneer” as well as with no brand name, and was being sold as a “Cerene” but that brand renamed to “Continuon” and sells iCare cups now.

The brands that Anigan mentioned, Dutchess, Blossom, Femma and Charlene (Also Cup’ax and Playtamx, which weren’t mentioned but are the same design too) are different designs of cup to the EvaCup though.  Those all look like this:

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Having short thin stems (with no grip lines), rings of grip around the base and rings around the “ridge” part near the rim of the cup.

So I invite Anigan to discuss how those brands are selling cups that are the same as EvaCup?

While clearly some (if not all) of those brands are rebrandings and it is unclear who the original was – To me, saying those brands are a copy of the EvaCup would be like saying that the EvaCup is a copy of a Diva…. both have similarities and differences.  Afterall, most cups available today are very similar in design elements to other cups – mostly with slight changes to the stem design and “ridge” area.

Also, EvaCup website says “EvaCup is made in a FDA registered facility as well.”  – Since EvaCup itself is not a registered device with the FDA, and Anigan is not a registered establishment – is it possible to disclose which FDA registered facility is manufacturing the cup?   I also notice that there is no 510(k) Premarket Notification lodged for the EvaCup.  I invite Anigan to discuss this with us also.

March 16, 2015 Posted by | news | | 7 Comments

FDA Approval & Registration

There are some cups on the market that are giving misleading information on their FDA clearance/approval/registration.

So I thought I would contact the FDA to find out exactly what the situation is with FDA approval on both menstrual cups and silicone used to make menstrual cups.

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Basically, there are 2 ways the FDA has involvement with menstrual cups.  The cups can have “FDA Clearance” for sale and/or the cups can be “Registered with the FDA”.  All cups being sold in the USA are required to be Registered, though very few actually are.

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FDA registration

Any menstrual cup being produced or distributed (sold or given away) in the US, is required to be registered with the FDA.  There are some exemptions, but they would appear not to be valid for most cup brands.  Even the people who appear to be importing cups from China and renaming them, would (from what the FDA told me) be required to register their device with the FDA, as they would classify as an importer or repackager.

The “device” (cup) and “establishment” (the business making and/or selling it) are both required to be registered.

To find a list of the brands/cups that are currently registered with the FDA (that would seem to be those who have paid their yearly registration fee to be allowed to sell cups to/in the US), you can search the “Establishment and device” register for the “HHE” product code again [Search results here]

As of 20th November 2016, the following appear to be the only cup brands that are currently registered with the FDA:

Blossom Cup, Casco Cup, Easy Life, Ella Cup, EvaCup, Diva, Femmycycle, Flex (Another brand of Insteads Softcups), Green Cup of Maine, Insteads Softcups, Keeper, LenaLily Cup, Life Cup, Lincup, Lunette, MCUK (Mooncup UK)MeLuna (Classic & Sport), Mooncup (USA), Monzcare/Rainbow, Nora Cup, Rockbrook (makers of Anytime, iCare and others), Sckoon, Super Jennie, V-cups.

There is also a few manufacturers listed with just “menstrual cup” – so I am unsure of which brand names they manufacture

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Now, on the topic of a cup being “FDA approved

NONE of the cups are “approved” by the FDA.  Menstrual cups are a class II device, and the FDA only gives “Approval”  to class III devices.  So cups cannot be “approved” by the FDA.

What some of them have however, is “Clearance” for sale.  It is largely just a case of which term is used, but “approval” implies the cup has been tested and “approved” by the FDA, which is not the case, so they are not allowed to use that term.  The FDA considers that:

Any representation that creates an impression of official approval of a device because of complying with the premarket notification regulations is misleading and constitutes misbranding.

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=807.97

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For a menstrual cup to be “cleared” by the FDA, they need to submit a “510(k) premarket notification“.  In layman’s terms what this means that since a new cup is basically the same in function and design as existing cups that are already cleared for sale by the FDA – the new cup doesn’t need to go through the more extensive “premarket approval” process (which would require clinical trials and extensive testing).  But it does need to go through the slightly less extensive “Premarket Notification” process.

It seems that as of Dec 2014, menstrual cups (as well as cloth pads) no longer need to go through the 510(k) Premarket Notification process to be allowed to be sold in the USA, but do still need to be registered with the FDA (unless they have an exemption)

I assume that cups that have come to the market since the premarket notification was stopped, would not be considered “FDA cleared” like those who have passed that process.  I also assume a cup brand could choose to become cleared if they wanted to submit the notification (though that is an expense they possibly won’t want to have to spend)?

So, no cups are “FDA approved”, the most they can be is “cleared” by the FDA.  All cups being sold in the US need to be “Registered” with the FDA.

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Menstrual cups are regulated under the product code “HHE”.  To find a list of all the menstrual cups that have the 510(k) Clearance, you can search the FDA database for the “HHE” product code [Click here for the search results]

As of 12th March 2015, the following appear to be the only cup brands that have 510(k) clearance:

Alicia (defunct*), Bellecup (defunct?), Divacup, Femmycycle, Insteads Softcups, Keeper, Lunette, MeLuna (classic and sport), Mooncup (UK), Mooncup (US), Rheacup, Sckooncup, Tassaway (defunct)

Though, as I said, there now is no requirement for cups to have 510(k) clearance.  You may however consider a 510(k) clearance as further assurance that a cup brand is good quality, as it has undergone some testing/regulation processes.

*Alicia isn’t being sold as an Alicia any more, but it appears that the same cup is being sold for stem cell collection (rather than menstrual use), and has been renamed Hygenia

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So brands like the Blossom Cup, who claimed to be FDA approved, are in fact, not (because no cups are) and at the time weren’t even FDA registered.

fda_blossom

 

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FDA approved silicone“.

Quite a few brands (pretty much all of them actually) are claiming that they are using silicone that has been “approved” by the FDA.  This is something I have had trouble finding the answer to.

For example:

fda_dutchess

fda-sckoon

fda_lunette

When I contacted the FDA to check to see if this was a valid claim, they told me that the FDA only regulates the end product, not what it is made from.

To quote a portion of the e-mail from the FDA:

“Please be aware that the FDA regulates the “finished” medical device and the manufacturers of the finished device. Therefore, the Center for Devices and Radiological Health (CDRH) does not maintain a list of ingredients or materials that are certified or approved for use in medical devices.”

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However, there are many silicone manufacturers who likewise claim their silicone is FDA approved or compliant (link, link), though I notice generally they seem to be referencing the FDA “rubber articles intended for repeated use“.  When I asked the FDA about that, they basically told me that was not part of the “CDRH”.

So I wonder if the FDA does approve/register/clear  the food-safe silicone used for various things (like perhaps food containers), but the “CDRH” branch (which appears to be the medical device section) of the FDA doesn’t approve silicone specifically for medical devices?  I don’t know.

I have asked why cup manufacturers would be making the claim that their silicone is FDA approved, if it isn’t…. but the FDA stopped replying to my e-mails 😛

I also do not know if the FDA requires each coloured cup to be separately cleared (as some cup manufacturers have told me), or not (as another cup company I’ve spoken to implies)… I asked about that also and received no reply.

I do know that the reason MeLuna is only registered for their “Sport” and “Classic” styles is that the “soft” version is too soft for the FDA requirements for clearance on those.

I have actually found it quite difficult to get answers from the FDA about these issues.  I’d been trying for about a month. I first contacted the Medical device department, who answered some of my questions.  I then asked more questions and was asked to contact the registration section for answers – who then told me to ask the medical devices section, when I commented that I’d already done that, they passed me on to the compliance/complaints section.  I asked the questions again and haven’t had any response.

So I have been getting a bit of a run-around.

March 12, 2015 Posted by | news | | 16 Comments

Patent for a “Splash-proof menstrual cup”

Someone pointed me to this today – it’s a Korean patent from 2009/2011 for a menstrual cup that has what appears to be a “lid” across the top, that would allow blood into the cup, but (presumably) not allow it to leak out as easily.

liddedcuppatent

http://www.google.com/patents/WO2011013954A2?cl=tr

I haven’t ever seen a cup like this, so I don’t think they were ever produced.

Much like the Keeper’s patent, which featured a hollow tube stem with a stopper to allow it to be emptied while worn – which doesn’t seem to have ever been manufactured.

keeper-patent

https://www.google.com/patents/US5827248

February 18, 2015 Posted by | news | 5 Comments

Sckoon knockoffs?

Browsing through AliExpress today, I discovered these cups.  While they have tried to disguise the stems, you can see the telltale flower design on the base of the cup.  They look to be copies of the Sckoon cup.

femcup_skoonhttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-Hot-Sale-Reusable-Medical-Grade-Silicone-Menstrual-Cup-Lady-Cup-Feminine-Hygiene-Product-for-Femcup/32284308638.html

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ladycup-sckoonhttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-Hot-Sale-Wholesale-6-Colors-Choose-Reusable-Medical-Grade-Silicone-Menstrual-Cup-Lady-Cup-Feminine/32282819348.html

Also from Rockbrook (the makers of iCare), called a “Anytime”

anytime_colours

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-Anytime-Brand-Wholesale-Reusable-Medical-Grade-Silicone/32288941057.html

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Since one of them shows it with a “femcup” box, and the “femcup” brand cup looks very similar to the other Chinese copies/rebrands, I wonder if it Femcup also a rebranded cup?

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February 17, 2015 Posted by | comparisons, news | , , | 4 Comments

Charity Programs Involving Cups

Some of the cup companies are involved in charity donations.

Femmecup
Femmecup has been donating to various charities.  Including providing cups to women in Uganda and to New Zealand following the earthquakes.

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Insteads Softcups
Donates a softcup to a girl in Africa for every box of softcups sold.

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Juju
In 2012 Juju donated 1000 cups to Days for Girls, and has donated cups to homeless women

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Mooncup (UK)

Each year a portion of profits is given to each Mooncup team member, who chooses a charity to donate it to.

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MPower
Mpower do charitable works in South Africa.

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My Own Cup
Has the “Inkululeko Project” which donates cups to schoolgirls in South Africa.

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Ruby Cup
With every purchase of a Ruby cup, they give a cup to a needy schoolgirl in Africa. They also work with www.femmeinternational.org

Menstrual Cup Donation projects

Sustainable Cycles
http://sustainablecycles.wordpress.com

The Keeper, DivaCup, Lunette, My Own Cup & Ruby cup, have donated to this cause – which helps to educate American women about reusable menstrual products.

Freedom Cups
http://freedomcups.org

People can purchase cups which are then donated (or can be delivered if you’re traveling in areas where they are needed).  Seemingly using the Cheap Chinese cups.

The Cup
http://www.thecup.org

Looks like Lunette, RubyCup and Mooncup might be donating to this cause.

Putali
http://www.putali-nepal.com

Distributing Ruby Cups in Nepal

February 3, 2015 Posted by | news | , , , , , , , , , | 8 Comments