There’s a cup that looks to be a copy of (or “heavily influenced by”) the Lily Compact folding design. While not an exact copy of the actual cup (the shape of the 2 cups is different), it’s the same type of folding/compact design.
Appears to be the same sort of design as the Femmycycle, but with a flower-like design around the edge.
Currently (as of Sept 2015) asking for crowdfunding donations to raise money to go into production.
The colour picture shows no seam where the flip-out section would attach to (if the design is the same as Femmycycle, which seems to be if you look at the black&white pictures). So the images are probably all conceptual art and not the actual cup.
I can’t seem to get google to translate the entire site, but here are some sections:
“If I can find enough moon cup supporters willing countersigned + development plan sponsor, then I can put in front of the development and production processes. After the fund-raising, please give me six months, through the license application. 2016 summer, u can start with the moon Cup! ʱ??”
“Content moon Cup project, is to “produce on the ground” and develop “the most suitable for Asian women to use the Moon Cup”, unwilling to come to break the long-standing American and European brands in Taiwan tradition, as well as cross-Taiwan can only find on behalf of the girls to buy dilemma. I want everyone everywhere in Taiwan have had to buy, there is starting.”
“It will improve the shortcomings of European and American brands, and then adjusted to the most suitable for Asian girls body type size.”
Sizes: “S″ (small), “L″ (large)
Dimensions: Size 1 = 40mm diameter, length without stem 58mm, 20mm stem. Size 2 = 45mm diameter, length without stem 60mm, 20mm stem.
Capacity: Size 1 = 15ml . Size 2 = 15mls.
Stem: Solid Thick
Measuring Lines: Yes
Cost (RRP): 20€
Been around since: 2015?
Other Details: Available in pink or clear. Very similar in design (just narrower) than Yuuki.
Country of origin:
Composition: Medical Grade Silicone
Sizes: “1” (small), “2” (Large)
Dimensions: 1 = 42mm diameter, 62mm length. 2 = 45mm diameter, 65mm length
Capacity: 20mls & 25mls
Measuring Lines: Yes
Cost (RRP): $29.99 USD [Currency Converter]
Been around since: 2015
Other Details: 90 day return or replacement guarantee. Appears to be another rebranding of the Cheap Chinese Cups.
The only info the listings give is that the large size has a capacity of 20mls. Which doesn’t seem accurate
The website for the brand who have trademarked the name “Happy Girl Cup” is here – http://www.homecures.co.uk but is undergoing restoration (screenshot) – which is pretty unprofessional IMHO, so that to me further proves this is a rebranding, as a legitimate cup brand is likely to be more professional than that. If you really do have to do “restoration” on a website, it would look better to just automatically redirect people to the alternative site instead of putting up a page and making them manually go there, and have a better looking landing page, but anyway…. The redirected site is here: http://www.remede-naturel.net/our-natural-products/158-happy-girl-cup-coupe-menstruelle-.html and the cups are also sold on Amazon.
Not sure who the clients are, does it mean people who have bought the cup? or the people who made the cup? Either way, the listing is full of questionable (if not misleading) claims, so I doubt the qualifications of these “clients” – for example:
- “Tampons and sanitary towels have a high risk factor for our health. They contain chlorine and other chemicals, which can be the cause of cancer besides less serious problems, as well as posing other possibilites such as Toxic Shock. Home Cures Happy Girl Cup™ has no such problem. It is ideal for ladies who suffer from gynecological problems, such as eczema, allergies, mycosis, etc.” – While there have been no reported cases of a menstrual cup causing TSS*, generally good cup companies will phrase it more in the way I just did, rather than to say there is no risk of TSS with cup use. Because the reality is that you can’t say for 100% sure that there is no risk whatsoever in using a menstrual cup, and saying so opens you up to being sued if someone did. Also are eczema and allergies gynecological problems?
- * I have heard through the grapevine that there has been a recent suspected case of TSS from a menstrual cup in France… but I have been unable to find the source of this to verify if it’s true or not. If it is true, then this does prove that while unlikely, and safer than tampons, it is possible to get TSS while using a cup.
- “After iniital sterilisation each month, ladies can be certain that there is no chance of contact with any chemicals. ” – Well technically even water is a “chemical“. So it’s actually impossible for anyone to have no chance of contact with a chemical when using a cup (or at any other time)… given that a silicone menstrual cup itself is made from a chemical compound. Though I think what they are meaning here is that there is no harmful exposure to chemicals (that we are aware of) when using a menstrual cup, which may be true.
- “With Home Cures Happy Girl Cup™ you are confident, as there is no risk of any leaks or odours.” – Since everyone is different, you can’t say that there is no risk of leaks or odours. While both are unlikely (if you’re wearing the right size cup for your body, emptying it before it overflows, you’re cleaning the cup well and don’t happen to have blood that leaves an odour).. it sometimes happens. It’s especially a big claim for a cup brand that doesn’t give ANY information on the sizing or capacity of their cups, thus making it impossible for customers to be able to determine if the cup would suit their physical needs before actually buying one to try it.
- “Your Happy Girl Cup™ is simply sterilised, and during your periond rinsed, put back in and forgotten.“ – You generally are advised not to wear a cup for more than 12 hours (some even recommend emptying it every 6-8 hours), so this advice makes it seem you can just leave it in your whole period – just forgetting about it is a very bad idea! There is no mention anywhere about not leaving it in for longer than 12 hours or when to empty it.
- “And, being delivered to your door in Eco friendly packing, there is no fancy box to throw away and pollute the environment. It arrives ready to use.” – Well I’m pretty sure the lack of box is due to the fact the cups don’t come with boxes from the manufacturer (or if they do, they are branded as Aneer) and it’s a money saving thing rather than an eco-friendly thing… The photos on Amazon show the cups individually packaged in plastic bags, which I would argue is less environmentally friendly than a cup that is packaged in a biodegradable cardboard box with no plastic packaging. If they arrive to the customer without that plastic bag, it may have been removed before sending, which then makes it appear to be more eco-friendly than it actually is. All to justify the supposedly eco-friendly benefits of not bothering to have them packaged in a box.
However, it does also say:
- “your Happy Girl Cup™, which is Guaranteed for 5 years against any manufacturing fault, will almost certainly last you a lifetime” – a 5 year guarantee is great, not many cups have that!
I’ve been excited for the release of this Lena cup for a while now, after being involved in the development process and having tried out prototypes of the design…. and having to keep tight-lipped about it until it was officially released :D
With the package Lena sent, they also sent me a little card thanking me for my help and support! Awwww :D
I’m always very impressed when cup companies have spent in contacting people like me to get feedback and discuss cups with them. To me it shows a company is trying to do as much research as they can, to try and bring out what they believe to be a great cup.
Even a little sticker on the back :D
The boxes they come in are really lovely and unique. They have an interesting feel to the box, it’s hard to explain…. almost sort of suede-like… almost like the “peach skin” texture cups have. The boxes are 100% recycled and printed with vegetable ink! Environmental win!
The boxes are sealed with a little clear sticker, so you would be able to see any tampering. Tampering or knowing if the box is factory sealed is not something I would have thought of, but it’s something I have seen people comment on, so I thought I’d mention that. Removing the sticker on both my boxes destroyed the sticker. So I imagine any tampering would be evident on the sticker.
The booklet gives the standard instructions you’d expect, but an interesting addition is a diagram of the positioning of the cup for both a high and low cervix. Explaining that if your cervix is high you may not need to trim the stem, but if it is lower you may need to. I don’t recall any cup instructions specifically talking about cervix position before.
The cup has a flat tab stem with a rounded bottom, good grip rings on the stem and base of the cup. Overall a smooth sided cup (no ridge or protrusions), in “peach skin” sort of feel.
Currently only available in pink, which is a sort of rose pink with a touch of apricot. Hopefully it will come out in other colours (like purple) in the future ;) (I love purple cups!)
The inside of the cup has a slight ridge and has “Lena” in slightly raised letters. 4 large airholes, horizontal with a slight downward angle.
(My camera isn’t detailed enough to show the inside ridge properly)
The silicone is reasonably soft – In my squish test, the small measured 28mm (the same as Eco-cup), and the large 24mm (the same as Fleur and Lily Compact). The silicone feels much the same in squishyness between the rim and the body of the cup.
Since I tested out the prototype, I already know that I really like this cup – I love the tab stem, I am unable to feel the stem while the cup is in place, and I find the smooth outside cleans easily and is more comfortable to insert (than cups with a pronounced ridge). As with a lot of softer cups, I did have to use my finger to push against the vaginal wall to make the large size cup open fully, but the small cup opened up without any trouble.
I’ll write up a more in-depth review in a month when I’ve had a chance to test it with my period.
Unfortunately at the moment they are sold through Amazon and not able to be shipped Internationally, however Precious Stars in the UK does sell them, and ships Internationally. Hopefully once the cups have been out for a bit longer, International shipping will be available.
If anyone in the US would like to try out this cup, I’ve been given a discount code OBSIDIAN that can be used for a 15% LENA purchase discount from http://amzn.to/1MYBOEP
Composition: Medical Grade Silicone
Sizes: “S”(Small) “L” (large)
Dimensions: S= 41mm diameter, 46mm long without stem, 71mm with stem (25mm stem). L=45mm diameter, 50.7mm long without stem, 70.5mm long with stem (19.7mm stem).
Capacity: S=25mls L=30mls
Stem: Flat tab
Measuring Lines: No
Cost (RRP): $39.95 [Currency Converter]
Been around since: July 2015
Other Details: Available in pink
Composition: Medical Grade Silicone
Sizes: “S/M”(Small) “M/L” (large)
Stem: Long thin stem
Measuring Lines: Yes
Cost (RRP): $ ?? [Currency Converter]
Been around since: 2015
Other Details: Website doesn’t seem to have a way to purchase the cup. Since the company that sells them (Belladot) also makes sex toys, the cups may be sold through “adult” shops?
Composition: Medical Grade Silicone
Sizes: “Princess” (Small) “Emerald” (large)
Stem: Flat Tab
Measuring Lines: Yes
Cost (RRP): $49.99 USD [Currency Converter]
Been around since: 2015
Other Details: Website says they donate to “Femme International” and “Somebodies Mama” charities. No additional product photos on the site, so I’m unsure whether there is “diamond cup” embossed into the cup as the picture shows, or if it is “photoshopped”. Looks very similar to Lunette and the other tab stemmed cups.
Occasionally this confusion pops up, so I thought that since the original site I’d linked to that explains all this has gone, I’d address this here.
Long story short….. there are 2 menstrual cups going by the name of “Mooncup”/”Moon cup”, and the “Mooncup” is the same as the “MCUK” but not the same as “Moon cup”. Clear as mud? :)
The original “Mooncup” product, which often now gets referred to as the “Mooncup UK”, was brought out in 2000 and is manufactured in the UK by The Mooncup Ltd. – www.mooncup.co.uk
In 2006, The Keeper Inc. (makers of the “Keeper” rubber cup) in the US brought out a silicone version of their cup, also calling it a “Moon Cup” (their trademark is registered with a space, although people often leave the space out), which gets called a “Moon cup US” by some people, to help distinguish it from the UK one – www.keeper.com.
Since both companies have the trademark for the name in their respective countries (more on that below), when the Keeper inc. started selling their “Moon Cup”, the original UK “Mooncup” was not able to be sold to the US due to the trademark issue (and presumably vice versa). So in 2011 Mooncup UK started calling their cups destined for the US market the “MCUK” – which allowed them to be sold there, making a separate section of their website to allow US customers to buy their cups under this new name – http://www.mooncup.co.uk/how-to-order/mcuk-online-shop.html.
Why did Keeper Inc. bring out a cup and name it the same thing as another brand already out there? Well…. some people feel they did it to try and take some of the Mooncup UK market, and there has been a lot of ill will towards the Keeper as a result. For example, early on, the Keeper website appeared to use meta tags that used the term “mooncup” before they were selling cups under that name – which meant that searching for a Mooncup would also bring up the Keeper website.
The timeline goes like this:
August – The domain name http://www.mooncup.co.uk was registered to Mooncup UK. I’m not sure when the cups were available for sale, but I would assume sometime not long after.
January – The Keeper inc. registered the domain http://www.themooncup.com February 25th – The Keeper inc. submitted an application to trademark the name “MOON CUP” in the US.
October – The Keeper inc. registered the domain http://www.mooncup.com Nov 12th – Mooncup (UK) submitted an application to trademark the name “MOONCUP” in the UK.
The domain registration was contested – info on that here – but the findings were basically that there was no proof the domains were being used in bad faith, and that registering a domain name does not by default grant you sole use of the name. The hearing commented that if anyone held a legal right to the name, it would be the Keeper given that they applied for the trademark first.
On August 1st the Silicone Keeper/”Moon Cup” was first discovered for sale by people in the cup community. Though it took a while before The Keeper Inc. actually acknowledged it was their cup, so it caused a lot of confusion with people not knowing what was going on, and buying the US Moon Cup thinking it was a UK Mooncup.
Mooncup UK submitted a trademark application for “MCUK“
So as the timeline shows, Mooncup UK was without a doubt the first to actually publicly use the name, and to sell a product with that name. However, The Keeper Inc. were first in submitting their trademark application. I don’t know how trademark law works in regard to how you determine which trademark is considered to be “first” – whether it goes by the application date, or the date it is granted (I would assume the latter).
The Mooncup UK trademark appears to have been granted on 05 March 2004, and the Keeper Inc. trademark underwent a lot of extensions and seems to have been registered on the 31st Jan 2006. Which (if I am reading that correctly) means that Mooncup UK actually got their trademark approved first. Although that’s just semantics, and it actually makes no difference who got the name first (from a legal standpoint, ethically I think it does).
Since a trademark only protects the name in the country you register it in (generally your home country, unless you also register it in other countries), which is why it is possible for a name to be trademarked in different countries to different people – giving a situation like this where there are 2 products both with the same trademarked name.
Either way, it created a confusing situation – with a lot of people not understanding that there are 2 different cups from 2 different companies, but that one of the cups had 2 different names, depending on where you live. All of that would have been solved if the Keeper Inc. had just called their silicone cup a “Keeper Clear” or something, rather than calling it a Moon Cup.
I keep meaning to take photos of the newer Mooncup UK cups, as I only had the older versions.
The newer cups are much more of a “white” clear (not the yellowed colour they were before), the silicone feels a bit softer and is frosted. They now have grip lines all over the stem.
The holes are now in the edge of the ridge (before they were just under it)
This shows the old and new cups together
This cup has a frosted silicone, in a more “peach skin” type feel. The sides of the cup do have very obvious seams, and there are also raised lines up the opposite sides that aren’t seams (they are only half the height of the cup) – I’m not sure what those are for, maybe to give extra rigidity to the cup? I can’t feel the seams on cups, so that isn’t something that affects me – but I know some people are sensitive to seams on cups, so this may be an issue for them.
Inside the cup, around the rim it has “made in Italy” and the Mami cup name, also the size marking. There are also 2 measuring lines inside.
The airholes (4 of them) are punched through cleanly, and are horizontal with a slight diagonal.
I must admit, when I have seen pictures of this cup online, I didn’t think the looked like the stem would be comfortable, since it almost looked like a serrated knife :)
But the grip lines around the stem are pretty much like the other cups, just a little more pronounced and that gives even better grip. The stem I found to be very comfortable, I couldn’t feel it, and I like this high grip stem a lot.
Even though this cup is actually quite large, a little larger than some of the other large size cups (and I normally find the smaller sizes fit better), I did find this cup opened up ok. It would feel like it hadn’t opened up, since the bottom of the cup still felt a bit squishy. But when I felt around the top of the cup to check, it did seem to be fully open and I didn’t have any leaks. I didn’t get a small cup to try that size out. But I was happy with the large size.
In the “Squish test” it measured 23mm.
This blue colour my cup came in has a good amount of colour to it (not too pale and a pretty shade of blue). The “lilac” I’ve seen photos of sometimes looks a bit grey, that I don’t like the look of (like the photo above), and sometimes looks good. So I assume this photo below is a more accurate picture of the colour?
All in all, I really liked this cup – I would have liked to try a small size to see how that felt and to see what the size comparison is, but I found the large size was fine for me (I just wasn’t sure if it had opened up fully or not). I like that they come in purple :D I also quite like this tab stem as it has a lot of grip while still being nice and soft and flexible so I couldn’t feel it.
This cup would have to be up there with my favourite cups!
This cup was kindly donated to me by Coppetta Mestruale for review. Thank you :)
The cup I have tried is the “Eco-cup”, but I am assuming it is the same as the Lybera, so if that is true, then this review would be the same for both.
I got the large size in pink and the small size in clear. The cups have a nice “frosted” sort of “peach skin” silicone. While I don’t like the colour pink, I do find this darker, almost magenta pink that some of the cups have to be quite pretty. So I’d probably pick that coloured one over the clear one.
The holes on both cups weren’t punched all the way through. Basically they were punched through right up to the outside edge, so that there was like a thin film of silicone covering the holes, with like a pin prick through the film. The clear (small) one only had 1 hole that was affected, the larger one had 2 and a half holes affected (5 holes in each cup). When the holes are not punched out fully like this, the blood can get trapped in there, so they need to be manually cleared.
The large cup also has a little flaw in the silicone along the rim at the top – where there is often a line around the rim, in the pink cup it almost looks like there was an airbubble in the silicone there? You can sort of see it in the photo below. They are otherwise good looking and feel nice to touch.
The stems are a hollow tube with a spiral pattern on them. As with most of the hollow tube stems, I found the stem irritating to wear, so I would have to trim the stems off/down.
The grip around the base of the cup has “Made in Italy” and a roman numeral for the size marking (I = small and II = large)
In “Squishyness”, The small measured at 28mm and the large at 26mm. (“Squish test” info here)
The small size cup I had no trouble getting to open up. The large size cup did have a few issues – where I had to press against the vaginal wall to give it space to open up. Both cups did not leak and felt comfortable to wear and insert, other than the stem issue.
These cups were kindly donated to me by Coppetta Mestruale for review. Thank you :)
Country: Czech Republic
Composition: Medical Grade Silicone
Sizes: S/1 (small), M/2 (large)
Dimensions: S = 43mm diameter, 57mm length (without stem?), 25mm stem. M = 47mm diameter, 57mm length (without stem?), 25mm stem.
Capacity: S=18ml, 22ml
Stem: Flat tab
Measuring Lines: No?
Been around since: ? (Facebook page started Jan 2015)
Other: Very similar in style and measurements to other similar & rebranded cups
Composition: Medical Grade Silicone
Sizes: 1 (large) – with plans to bring out a small size
Dimensions: 47mm diameter, 52mm length (without stem), 68mm including stem.
Stem: Rounded short stick
Measuring Lines: Yes
Been around since: Trademarked Dec 2014
Other: Manufactured in the US, but as of 17th July 2015 (when I last checked), there is no record of a cup with this name registered with the FDA.
I saw this a while back and wanted to comment on it. If you have a look on the Luv-Ur-Body website, they have some FAQ statements concerning the lifespan of the cup and hygiene that I would like to address. I feel it’s a shame when menstruation and women’s bodies are portrayed as being gross and dirty, especially if it is being done to convince people to replace a menstrual cup more often that they should need to (eg commercial gain for the company)
“We strongly recommend the use of our Menstrual Cups for just 3 yrs based on hygiene reasons. We do not think it’s hygienic to re-use for 10yrs something vaginally inserted (which mixes with cervical secretion and other bodily fluids/waste) which costs the same as a haircut. Especially if you are sexually active or have multiple partners. Most people would not use a toothbrush for 10yrs”
You don’t reuse a toothbrush for 10 years because as they become “shaggy” with frequent use they become less effective at doing their job, and need to be replaced. Their lifespan is supposed to be about 3 months for optimal efficiency. While yes, they also become less hygienic with use (they actually have far more nooks and crannies for bacteria to hide in than a menstrual cup, and you don’t even clean/boil/steralise them as you do for cups) but that’s not the only reason you would replace them. So it’s not a very good comparison.
The amount of sex you have, and how many partners you do it with, also should not affect how hygienic it is to use your menstrual cup.
“and most women would not re-use a douch applicator spout, clothpad, menstrual sponge or particular pair of panty for 10yrs!”
Again, underpants, sponges and cloth pads all usually wear out before 10 years, so people replace them because of wear, not because they have become unhygienic with use.
“We completely understand that the vagina is self cleaning and that women generally bath at least once a day and will maintain high levels of personal hygiene but hey lets face it, some peoples level of personal hygiene will be poorer than others. That’s why some women get vaginal infections or STD’s and some don’t.”
Sexually transmitted diseases are caused by things like viruses, certain bacteria and parasites. You do not get an STD because you bathe less frequently or from using a menstrual cup that has become “unhygienic” with age.
“Same way some people have bad breath and some don’t. Thus some will clean their Cups better than others over time and some won’t especially the airholes that tend to get clogged with blood clots. Some women don’t use the pouches to store but rather leave their Cup out on the bathroom sink where it comes in contact with dust mites, germs and bathroom cleaning products.”
And for all those cups collecting dust and germs, they can be boiled or soaked in steralising solution.
“It’s not uncommon for menstrual cups to be re-usable for 3yrs or less, “
Actually it is.
If the LUB cups are only durable enough for 3 years of use, then that’s the companies choice to make their product in that way. However arguing that they shouldn’t be used for longer because it would be unhygienic is misleading or false, as is trying to imply that a short lifespan like that is normal among other menstrual cup brands.
“some brands made in the UK are re-usable for about 18months only and some are disposable after each use.”
Most of the cups that do talk about a lifespan, say around 10 years. That is the common lifespan for a reusable menstrual cup.
DivaCup suggests replacing the cup every 12 months, but does say it is up to the user to decide how long to keep it for – which some people assume is to sell more cups, although some people have reported their DivaCups as being less durable as other brands. Femmecup offers a”lite” version that is designed to be replaced after 12 months, but that is specifically designed to be a cheaper version of their regular cup. That appears to be the only UK cup to have such a low lifespan.
I have seen a cup company (it might have been Diva?) say that they were unable to give a longer lifespan due to FDA regulations.
The only menstrual cup that is disposable after a single use is the Insteads Softcup (and even that is commonly reused by people) – which is not the same type of menstrual cup as the LUB (The Insteads are designed to be a cheap disposable cup option), so is not a valid comparison.
Cups that are frequently boiled or soaked in sanitizing solutions may wear out quicker than cups that are not subjected to these – and you should always check your cups for wear. However many people feel that cup companies who promote short lifespans on their reusable cups, are doing so with the intention of boosting profits rather than because the cups will only last that long.
As far as cup hygiene goes – obviously you should make sure you cups are cleaned well (including airholes), don’t share cups with other people, practice safe sex and good personal hygiene.
However if you are making sure the cup is cleaned well after each use and before you use it again (and the cup has not deteriorated or been damaged), then there should be no difference in how hygienic is is after 1 year, 3 years, 5 years or 10 years.
The Gaia Cup pouches are a bit different to the other pouches – they have the brand name on a clear plastic tag on the side, and they have a flat base!
The Gaia Cup comes in 2 sizes, but according to the measurements, there is only 1mm difference between the sizes, so I’m really not sure what the point of having both sizes is…..
Both cups look identical, it’s only the writing inside that tells you which size that lets you know. If you put them against each other, you can see the rims are the 1mm difference, but it’s such a small amount. Though their website only seems to have the large size now, so maybe they don’t offer the smaller one any more?
The silicone has the “peachskin” sort of feel to it. Very soft, my “Squish Test” measured it at 21mm compression – the same as the Si-Bell. It has a nice feel to it.
Because I like having a good stem to grab onto, I found this short little stem to be quite slippery and not have enough grip – even though it does have grip lines on it. I found it quite difficult to remove because of this. But, on the plus side – I couldn’t feel the stem, so if you’re someone who normally has to cut stems off, then this might be a good compromise.
As with all the softer cups – I have to push against the vaginal wall to give the cup enough space to open up fully. Because there was no smaller diameter version to try, this would be a problem for me, as normally a softer large cup has trouble opening but the smaller sizes are usually ok. So I personally prefer a firmer cup.
The outside is smooth, no ridge, so it is comfortable for insertion and removal. The inside rim of the cup has the brand name and size. The airholes are a good size for cleaning.
These cups were kindly donated to me by Coppetta Mestruale for review. Thank you :)
This cup is interesting because it has a hollow stem, with a marble ball at the end that forms a stopper. So that you can push the ball back up the stem to release the “valve” and let the cup empty without needing to remove it.
At first it seems really long. But it isn’t actually much longer than some of the long cups. Shown below with a small size LunaCup and DivaCup. The body of the cup is quite small too.
In the stem you can see there is a larger rounded part – this is where the ball is pushed to, when the cup needs to be emptied. The ball is then pushed into the narrower part of the end of the stem to seal the stem off again.
The silicone is the more “sticky” kind, and about a medium level of softness. When measured in my “Squish test” it compressed to 28mm. Making it one of the firmest small cups I have. There are no airholes in the cup, but I had no trouble with leakage or removal. There are no measuring lines or markings on the cup.
To be honest, I don’t really see this design as being as much benefit as it gets advertised as – I don’t think cups are that difficult to remove for cleaning, and there are some issues with the design. But I can see it being of benefit if you are out of the home and don’t want the hassle of having to empty a cup. I imagine it would be difficult to tell if the cup was emptied properly while you are wearing it though. I only tested it by removing the cup and emptying it – so that I could see how well it emptied and cleaned, so I could better review it. I haven’t yet tested emptying it while still inserted.
I also would be worried about the ball dislodging and the cup emptying while you are wearing it. While it seems that it needs a decent amount of force to get the ball dislodged to empty the cup, I do still worry if it is possible it could dislodge by itself and allow the cup to leak. I would only feel confident wearing it if I had a pad on – but that is partly because I am already paranoid about leakage thanks to a white-pants-tampon-mishap back in my teenage years :P
I was also worried about the ball falling out while cleaning – but I’ve actually tried to push the ball out of the stem, and you’d have to really try hard to do it. I did try while it was dry, so maybe when it’s wet it could be easier, but I wasn’t able to get the ball out through the end, but if I really tried hard I could push it up the stem towards the body of the cup (I don’t recommend doing that though, it’s difficult to get it back into place again :P) and the cup does come with a spare ball just in case it did somehow manage to fall out. But I don’t think that would be likely.
I tried it a couple of times, and I must say – I was pleasantly surprised. I actually found the stem more comfortable than some of the hollow tube stems! I barely felt it. Because it is longer, and rounded on the end, I think it pokes less than a shorter stem with a straighter end. I also did not have any troubles with the ball moving or the stem leaking.
One of the things that I have seen discussed with this design of cup (and also the Victoria Love, which is a similar design), is that menstrual blood is thick and sometimes clotty – so we wondered if it was possible for it to flow out of the stem easily. The Victoria Love design seems to have smaller holes on the sides of the end of the stem, whereas the Bassrose has a larger hole right at the end of the stem. So out of the 2, it seems like the Bassrose design will work better for clots or thick blood. I don’t know if I had any clots when I tried it, but it emptied fine – I did have to sometimes press the stem a bit to move the ball back up into that larger section, but no blood seemed to get stuck in the stem.
To better show people how the valve/ball works, how easily it emptied and how it doesn’t seem to leak when the cup is full – I have a photo and a video of the cup containing menstrual blood, to show you how it actually works. Yes, actual blood :P I will put the links here so you can choose to look at them or not, if you think it’s gross, just don’t look. I won’t be approving any “eww that’s gross” comments either, you can keep those thoughts to yourself :)
Click at your own risk :P
This is one of the Sckoon “knockoffs” (potentially copied design) – it came without a box, and with a pouch marked “Lady Cup”. I basically just got it to see if it was an exact copy of the Sckoon, or if it was different at all. It does have a couple of very slight differences, but it is essentially a copy.
The Anytime stem is longer, it doesn’t have the Sckoon branding around that flower base. It also doesn’t have that frosted silicone band or the strange “water drop/stretch marks” effect the Sckoon has. The body of the cup appears to be the same though, and the flower grip pattern on both cups appears to be exactly the same.
The Anytime cup has messy airholes. They have obviously been drilled from the inside out (Sckoon’s appear to be from the outside in, and are higher and neater), since 1 of the 5 holes doesn’t break through to the outside at all and the remaining holes aren’t fully punched through. There is also ‘damage’ (for want of a better word – where the silicone is marked) around the edges of the holes on the inside.
The Anytime is a little firmer than the Sckoon, and it is not as translucent.
While I don’t like to recommend a “knockoff” cup, nor the very cheap Chinese made cups of any brand… If you like the shape/style of the Skoon but want it a little firmer, then (airhole/legal/safety issues aside), this cup may suit better, since it is identical in shape/size (other than the longer stem)
My iClean came with no box, a little instruction leaflet and a really poor excuse for a pouch – one of those organza bags you usually find jewellery or something like that put into. Not really suitable for a menstrual cup pouch – but these are very cheap cups, so you can’t expect much.
The holes weren’t punched through as neatly as other cups, with some displaced silicone on the outside and inside of the cup.
I got this one in the small size, so that I could see what it was like compared to the large Aneer I bought – since they look identical. In look and feel, they do seem to be in the same silicone and basically from the same mold. The only difference I can see is that the Aneer stem is slightly more rounded on the very end, and has a slight more of a lean to it.
I thought that this cup, being small, would be able to open up (since I had trouble with the large Aneer opening up), but I did have trouble with it too. I did only try it once,so things could be different if I tried it again, but I fiddled around for a few moments trying to get it to open and it didn’t. So I think it’s just too soft for me.
I know I’m supposed to be impartial and give all cups a go, but I don’t really trust the safety of the silicone of the ultra-cheap cups, so I really got it only for visual comparisons, and so that I had one of this brand for my collection – rather than to actually test the cup out by wearing it.
Cup Lee has been one of the cups I’ve wanted to try for a while. They were a cup brand available in colours quite early on – and they have a purple :D
The packaging I got has a (folded up) sheet of something (in Russian) as the top of the bag. Which is an interesting way of doing it – but the problem was that unless you use a staple remover, or remove them carefully, you can tear that.
The instructions came in English and Russian. The pouch it comes in has a sort of linen look/feel to it. The cup is a pinky-purple (magenta sort of colour), a bit more pink than I like my “purple” to be. but it’s still pretty. Some of my photos make it seem slightly more pink than it actually is, the photo above looks right to me.
The silicone is the more “sticky” kind of silicone, which in some ways doesn’t feel as nice as the more “peachskin” ones, but it does give a bit better grip I think. The stem is a hollow tube, with raised grip rings. I usually find the tube stems can feel a little uncomfortable when they are not trimmed, so I could feel the stem of this cup, and I don’t find the tube stems have as much grip as a tab stem.
The cup has a low profile ridge area around the top rim, which I find makes it more comfortable to insert and remove than cups with a more defined ridge.No writing or markings on the cup at all. No branding, no measuring lines and no size markings.
“Squishyness” wise, it’s very soft…. In my “Squish test” the large compressed to 22mm, which makes it firmer than Sibell (21mm) but softer than Juju/Sckoon (23mm).
I found that as with the softer cups, with the large size I had to press against the vaginal wall to help it open up. But it did not seem to have as much trouble opening up as some of the other soft cups have.
All in all, I was quite happy with this cup. As I say in most of my reviews, I prefer other stem types, but other than the stem (and that I personally prefer a more blueish-purple colour), I did like the shape of this cup.
Composition: Medical Grade Silicone
Sizes: “S” (Small), “M” (large)
Dimensions: S: 41mm diameter, 47mm long without stem, 23mm stem length. M: 46mm diameter, 52mm long without stem, 18mm stem length.
Capacity: S: 25ml to rim, 20mls to air holes. M: 35ml to rim, 29mls to air holes.
Stem: Flat Tab
Measuring Lines: No
Cost (RRP): £23.99 [Currency Converter]
Other Details: 4 airholes. Comes in 3 colours (purple, pink, red and clear). Available in packs containing a soaking cup and cleaning gel.
These are the Fleurcup, given a new name and packaged with a container.
One of the theories I had about the cheap Chinese cups, was that they could be made using cheaper silicone, perhaps food-grade, rather than medical-grade.
While most of the listings for the cups state they are medical grade, there are a few that say they are made from food-grade silicone. Which is a concern. If some of them are, then it is possible that others are. You are really only relying on what a product listing says to know what it is made from.
It could also explain why most of the cheap cups are also very soft/squishy. It could be because there are more softeners added, but it could be because they are made from different silicone.
For example, Blossom Cup’s website claims the cup is FDA approved (which is false), and that it is made from FDA approved medical grade silicone.
Yet their Amazon listing says the cup is made from Food-Grade silicone:
If it is made from food-grade silicone, then not only is their website fraudulent, but if the other similar cups (Charlene, Dutchess etc.) are in fact the same cups too (just rebranded), then those would all be food-grade not medical grade too… and those claim they are medical grade.
Another example is the cups being sold by Zhida Xintai, those list food grade silicone as their material.
What is the difference?
I really can’t say if food-grade silicone is going to be worse for a cup to be made from than medical grade. However something that is safe for contact with food, may not necessarily be safe for skin-contact inside your vagina for days.
Medical grade silicone is designed for products that are used inside the body, and it is therefore tested on animals. Now, while we might not like that fact, it is done to make sure that the material is safe to have in the body. Food-grade silicone does not undergo those tests, as it is designed to have contact with food only. Not for being used on or in the body.
So while food-grade silicone may be perfectly fine to use, there is no guarantee it won’t cause reactions, because it has not been tested for that use.
Anigan (EvaCup) posted a couple of comments to different posts here, which I didn’t publish to the blog because some of them weren’t in relevant areas, but I’ll repost what they said here (which makes it more visible to everyone anyway).
I invite Anigan to make more comments to this post if they wish.
“First of all thank you for your interests in reviewing EvaCup. We would like to take this opportunity to make it clear to everyone that EVACUP IS NOT A KNOCK OFF. We designed, developed and patented EvaCup in the US and we’re manufacturing EvaCup in the US as well.
We are a company that specialize in menstrual products and try our best to make HIGH QUALITY PRODUCTS with AFFORDABLE PRICES for women of all classes. Our quality isn’t any less than more expensive brands. EvaCup is made in a FDA registered facility as well.
We do have issues with China copying our cups and have been taking legal actions against them. They stole our design and sold the cups on Alibaba. We hired a China lawyer and international lawyer to fight them. After receiving warning letters from our lawyers, China manufactures slightly changed the cup design and continue to sell on Alibaba. We are still fighting against them but the Chinese government is not taking copyright and infringement as serious as western countries, so it’s a long journey for us.
We encourage you not to buy China made cups as their safety and quality are in question (Through our further investigations we discovered that they falsely claimed their materials. They are in fact not using medical grade silicone).
The following cups that have design like EvaCup you see on market are all the same China made cups with private labels.
– Blossom Cup
– Femma Cup
– Charlene Cup
Check out our website and Facebook for more info about EvaCup. We launched EvaCup in August 2014.
“It has come to our attention that even after we hired several lawyers including a patent lawyer for international, and specifically for China and the USA, we are still being targeted for design and rebranding.
While we find it very flattering, we began our company to offer a SAFE, well made product that was both environmentally friendly and affordable. We spend and continue to spend a great amount of time and money for testing to give you a product that uses certified and safe materials in an FDA registered facility. The materials “they” use may NOT be safe for use inside your body, as well is their colors and pigments.
We don’t want to name names, but we have had our lawyers contact counterfeit sellers and hope that they comply with NZ government. You may still find them listed on selling platforms however, “Currently Unavailable” will be shown when trying to purchase them. It’s a long process to fight infringement as some governments don’t take it as serious as western countries. Some counterfeit sellers slip through the cracks or haven’t complied yet.
As we continue to fight off the infringements, please bear with us and look for our trademark to be sure you are purchasing a product that has been tested safe.
***We are currently pending our US patent and have recently added our EvaCup logo to our mold so that YOU know you’re getting a product that you can trust!***“
I’d like to point out that I’ve never accused EvaCup as being a copy/rebranding, I have simply listed here all the brands of cup have the same design (which is an “Aneer” and a no longer available “Cerene” brand), in the interests of sharing information.
There are a few questions I’d like to bring up though….
Firstly with the safety of cheap Chinese cups – this is something that quite a few people are interested in, so we would love to have any insight Anigan can give about why some of these cups may be very cheap, and what leads them to believe they aren’t medical grade silicone. What have you seen that makes you believe they aren’t medical grade silicone?
On the cup design and other “copies”….. EvaCup looks like this:
Which has a distinctive grid-like pattern of lines around the base of the cup, with a short thick stem with grip lines and smooth “ridge” area near the rim of the cup – and the same design has been seen being sold on places like AliExpress with the name “Aneer” as well as with no brand name, and was being sold as a “Cerene” but that brand renamed to “Continuon” and sells iCare cups now.
The brands that Anigan mentioned, Dutchess, Blossom, Femma and Charlene (Also Cup’ax and Playtamx, which weren’t mentioned but are the same design too) are different designs of cup to the EvaCup though. Those all look like this:
Having short thin stems (with no grip lines), rings of grip around the base and rings around the “ridge” part near the rim of the cup.
So I invite Anigan to discuss how those brands are selling cups that are the same as EvaCup?
While clearly some (if not all) of those brands are rebrandings and it is unclear who the original was – To me, saying those brands are a copy of the EvaCup would be like saying that the EvaCup is a copy of a Diva…. both have similarities and differences. Afterall, most cups available today are very similar in design elements to other cups – mostly with slight changes to the stem design and “ridge” area.
Also, EvaCup website says “EvaCup is made in a FDA registered facility as well.” – Since EvaCup itself is not a registered device with the FDA, and Anigan is not a registered establishment – is it possible to disclose which FDA registered facility is manufacturing the cup? I also notice that there is no 510(k) Premarket Notification lodged for the EvaCup. I invite Anigan to discuss this with us also.
The OrganiCup box has the instructions printed on the inside of the box – which is cool. The pouch it comes with is a very stiff feeling cotton. Almost like a canvass. I wonder if it will soften up with washing? But I guess it will be durable :)
These cups came squashed to fit into the box , but bounced back into a round shape after a few minutes of being free.
They have a stem that is a little thicker than the long thin stick stems of cups like the Sckoon, Si-bell, Juju etc. But not as thick as the tube stems. They have really thick grip lines on them.
Testing them out
I found the stem design was very comfortable, I couldn’t feel it at all. It’s also not stretchy (like some thin stick stems can be), so pulling down on the stem brought the cup down, without just stretching the stem. Because the stem is a bit shorter than other cups, in the smaller cup in particular the stem was about at the limit I could easily reach up, so for that aspect I preferred the larger size because it was a bit easier for me to reach.
The smooth outside was easy to clean and comfortable for insertion/removal. White frosted “peachskin” type feeling silicone. Quite squishy. The slightly firmer silicone on this cup made it open slightly better than the Si-bell and other softer cups. Overall I like this cup a lot.
One of the Si-bell cups came in a cotton bag, the other came in a silicone (I assume) bag. I have to say though, the silicone bag feels AWFUL! It’s just a disturbing type of feel to it, hard to explain but not nice to touch at all. It also picks up all manner of fluff and dust. I dropped it on the carpet by accident…. and lets just say…. I have 2 cats….. that pouch got very furry, I had to wash it off :P
But anyway…. the cups are nice :)
They are indeed identical to ClariCup
Although Si-bell has slightly softer silicone
Testing it out
When I tested out the ClariCup I was really impressed with it, it was the first cup I’d tried with a thin “stick” stem that gave a good amount of grip. So since the ClariCup seems to have been made with the Si-bell cup mold, they are obviously the same in how they feel when worn. The smoothness of the outside of the cup makes for easy cleaning and comfortable insertion/removal. The stem is excellent, I can’t feel it at all when it is in, yet it also has great grip.
The Si-bell airholes are properly punched through, when ClariCup holes were a bit messy.
It has a white frosted look to the silicone. A “peachskin” type feel, it feels nice to touch.
I personally prefer a coloured cup to a clear one, because I don’t like the golden colour cups get and a colour is more fun to me….. and I prefer the slightly firmer silicone of the ClariCup – so since the Si-bell and the ClariCup are identical in design, I would choose ClariCup over Si-bell. But if you don’t like the blue colour of the ClariCup, then Si-bell would be the better choice, as it seems to be slightly better made. You’d probably want to get a new pouch for it though :)
I thought I’d better get an Aneer brand cup, to see what it was like.
I see a lot of Aneer and other Chinese tab stemmed cups with bent stems, and when mine arrived, the stem was squashed into the corner of the bag – so I wondered if that is what causes it – but when it came out of the bag, the stem was pretty much straight, just a little lean.
This is supposed to be the “purple” colour…. I don’t have a pink one to compare it to, but looking at it on it’s own, I’d call it pink not purple, so it must be only very slightly more purple than the pink one. Which is a shame :(
The silicone is the more “sticky” kind, that some cups have. It feels ok though. I find some of the frosted silicones can feel a bit “plastic” so I think I prefer a “sticky” silicone to one of the “plasticky” ones. It has 2 very small airholes.
I don’t have a large Diva to compare it to (Since this Aneer is large), but it does seem to be a cross between a Diva and a Lunette in style.
Compared with my (small, old style) Diva, you can see if does closely resemble that shape. It’s a bit taller and narrower than the Large Lunette. Also the ridge area is longer on Aneer – so it is more similar to a Diva, but with a tab stem. I have heard Diva changed their rim from the more pointy to a smoother one too (Diva refused to send me a new one, so I’m only able to go by what I’ve heard)
Testing it out
Since this one didn’t have a chemical smell to it (like my moon stem cup), I felt more confident trying it out to see what it was like. It is *VERY* soft, the softest of all the cups I have. in hindsight I should have realised that it was going to be very soft and bought the small. So unfortunately since I have trouble getting the soft large size cups to open, I wasn’t able to get this one to open up at all. No matter what I tried. I imagine if I had the small size, I’d probably be able to get that open, so it’s a shame I didn’t get a small. I guess I’ll have to get a small size and try that out and update this.
But, I wore it for a few mins not being opened fully, so I could see how the stem feels, and I was not able to feel the stem at all. So in that respect, I think the very soft silicone is good for stem comfort. Though I do find the tab stems to be a comfortable design anyway. It is a quite long stem, so even if you have a high cervix you may need to trim some of the stem off.
As I’ve made pretty clear, I’m hesitant to recommend very cheap cups, because I do wonder if the quality of the silicone is as good as the more established and more expensive brands. But other than the difficulty of opening for me (which I do have with a lot of soft cups), and a potential difficulty cleaning airholes that are so small…. there is nothing else really wrong with this cup, style/design wise.
Stem is comfortable, it has good grip, the silicone doesn’t feel any “cheaper” than other similar (“Sticky”) silicone cups…. there were no defects – in fact I’ve had Lunette and other brands of cups that have a little rough silicone around the seams… whereas this one is perfectly smooth all over. All in all, it looks pretty good.
Since Yuuki redesigned their cup, and I hadn’t tried the new one, so I asked them to send me one. Then I realised they have different versions now, and I’m not sure which one they sent me. I assume the “Classic”?
They came with containers you can use for storage/soaking the cups, which is nice. Other than the Lily cups (which came in special printed packets), these are the first cups I’d received where the cups were packed in plastic bags.
For some reason my old Yuuki, which I only used for one cycle to review it, turned golden. So apologies for that in the following comparison photo between the old and new…
They seem to be the same shape, except the old cup had smaller holes and the new cup has larger ones, and the old stem was a filled tube with rounded end, and had more grip. Here’s the original Yuuki cup before it yellowed.
I must admit, I preferred the old one. The newer silicone is a bit more frosted, but it feels a bit more “plasticky” to me, and doesn’t look as nice IMHO. The older one was a bit more of the “sticky” sort of feel, but I prefer the feeling of the older one. I also prefer the solid stem, since there’s less chance of blood getting caught inside.
I assume this is the “Classic”? as the silicone feels about the same as the old one I have. I know Yuuki now offers an economy and a soft version too. But I’m not sure how those feel in comparison to this one.
Testing it out
I’ve been testing out a lot of softer silicone cups lately, which usually require me to push against the vaginal wall with my finger to give it space to fully open up. So I must say, I did appreciate testing this out and having it pop open perfectly without me needing to do anything! I’d forgotten how much easier the firmer silicones are able to pop open for me.
I can feel the hollow tube stem more than I could feel the solid one (and more than I feel tab stems) – I think perhaps because the solid stem was rounded on the end, whereas the hollow one is cut straight across. I still prefer other stem types, but I like the rest of the shape of this cup.